Bragg Madaxe · Aug 08, 2005, 01:00 PM // 13:00

I took my 9th level Necro/Monk character and 3rd level Alesia last night into Charr land "just to see what happens", and we handily defeated over 50 charr after all was said and done (expert pulling, lol).

On the way back, we ran into 2 overseers and fought for over 20 minutes with no victor! Alesia did a great job healing me and I kept Healing Breeze on her and of course the overseers kept healing themselves, so it went on and on.

My necro/monk can deal over 110 points of damage every full energy bar, but I only had a crappy 6-8 dmg sword for hand to hand (I also had a few staffs that did 5-7 damage, but with the sword, I had a protection icon that gave me a lot of health, armor and energy. I used life syphon to drain their health then dropped all my damage skills on them and their health bar would get to almost 0, then they'd heal and it would start all over again.

Any suggestions for strategy against 2 overseers when a tank isn't available?

Bragg

John Waffletord · Aug 08, 2005, 01:10 PM // 13:10

get the hench tank/ another player

Kamatsu · Aug 08, 2005, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Fort Ranik mission?

Try bringing the minion spell.. and as you kill the things leading up to the 2 overseer's.. summinion minion's. the extra damage they can pile onto the overseer's will easily over-power their healing.. even with 2 overseer's healing each other & themselves.

just remember to keep degen on them. and focus attack's on just 1 at a time. also try timing a big attack spell right when they are low on health and look to be casting healing.. make sure it's a quick shot spell.. that will probably put them over the edge and dead if you time it right.

Also try beinging Orion. he rocked for taking out 2 standing still overseer's... no celebratory forestorm there! heehehehe!

Bragg Madaxe · Aug 08, 2005, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by John Waffletord

get the hench tank/ another player

Actually, I was more looking for suggestions on how to do it with only the monk and myself.

Bragg

Bragg Madaxe · Aug 08, 2005, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by kamatsu

Fort Ranik mission?

No, just a Piken Square mission where I went exploring after the mission was over. There was a HUGE amount of Charr hanging out in this tar pit, so I pulled and picked them off 3 or 4 at a time.

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Try bringing the minion spell.. and as you kill the things leading up to the 2 overseer's.. summinion minion's. the extra damage they can pile onto the overseer's will easily over-power their healing.. even with 2 overseer's healing each other & themselves.

Actually I had the minion spell, but when I ran from the overseers to an area where I had corpses available, the spell wouldn't work! Kept doing that chirp thing and couldn't figure out why. Is there a time limit on using corpses?

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just remember to keep degen on them. and focus attack's on just 1 at a time. also try timing a big attack spell right when they are low on health and look to be casting healing.. make sure it's a quick shot spell.. that will probably put them over the edge and dead if you time it right.

Thanks for the suggestions.

dargon · Aug 08, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Corpses (except for bosses) disappear after a while. Furthermore only 1 necro spell may be used per corpse. You can't cast well of blood and then summon bone minion on the same corpse.

Count Feanor · Aug 08, 2005, 05:21 PM // 17:21

You can tell if you can use a corpse if it still has color. If it is a dark, charcoal color then it either has been used or is unusable.

EF2NYD · Aug 08, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49

I solo'd a monk Charr out in the breach for a good half hour when I was exploring out there. Good times.

Warlawk · Aug 08, 2005, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Bragg Madaxe

Actually, I was more looking for suggestions on how to do it with only the monk and myself.

Bragg

youre gonna need to grasp the fact that this game was not designed or intended to be solo'd or duo'd. not to say it isnt possible... but it requires very specific builds, class combinations etc. and likely you will have to respec for many different parts of the game. it can be done, but its more trouble than its worth.

Bragg Madaxe · Aug 08, 2005, 10:52 PM // 22:52

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Originally Posted by Warlawk

youre gonna need to grasp the fact that this game was not designed or intended to be solo'd or duo'd.

Thanks, but I think I've grasped that already. Just looking for tips for this particular situation.

Bragg

Bingley Joe · Aug 09, 2005, 01:08 AM // 01:08

Sounds like all you really needed was a good, reliable interrupt.

JoDiamonds · Aug 09, 2005, 02:53 PM // 14:53

To do it alone, you really need to bring special skills for that purpose. For instance, things like Scourge Healing.

Taking down enemy healers can be a difficult thing, if not very dangerous to yourself. But if you only have a monk for a companion, you'll need something for this purpose. It really depends on your class.

Mesmers can bring things like Backfire or interrupts (Power Leak is excellent here). Necromancers have a few skills available to them at some points for this, such as Mark of Subversion (counter the next spell target casts on an ally, -and- steal some health). Elementalists can hoard up their energy and then drop a quick, careful series of DOT attacks which will hopefully overwhelm the enemies defenses. Warriors can't do much unless they use hammers for knockdown / interrupt. Rangers can try to Distracting Shot the healing spells. Monks ... well, they have Scourge Healing. =)

Any of these methods still might fall short if you are the only attacker against multiple healers, though. But that shouldn't surprise you: One guy can't defeat two, a lot of the time.

Aug 08, 2005, 01:00 PM // 13:00	#1
Bragg Madaxe Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: lyzrdstomp.com Guild: Lyzrd's Tale Profession: Mo/N	And the battle went on and on and... I took my 9th level Necro/Monk character and 3rd level Alesia last night into Charr land "just to see what happens", and we handily defeated over 50 charr after all was said and done (expert pulling, lol). On the way back, we ran into 2 overseers and fought for over 20 minutes with no victor! Alesia did a great job healing me and I kept Healing Breeze on her and of course the overseers kept healing themselves, so it went on and on. My necro/monk can deal over 110 points of damage every full energy bar, but I only had a crappy 6-8 dmg sword for hand to hand (I also had a few staffs that did 5-7 damage, but with the sword, I had a protection icon that gave me a lot of health, armor and energy. I used life syphon to drain their health then dropped all my damage skills on them and their health bar would get to almost 0, then they'd heal and it would start all over again. Any suggestions for strategy against 2 overseers when a tank isn't available? Bragg Last edited by Bragg Madaxe; Aug 08, 2005 at 01:04 PM // 13:04..

Aug 08, 2005, 01:10 PM // 13:10	#2
John Waffletord Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Baltimore, MD, USA	get the hench tank/ another player

Aug 08, 2005, 01:25 PM // 13:25	#3
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	Fort Ranik mission? Try bringing the minion spell.. and as you kill the things leading up to the 2 overseer's.. summinion minion's. the extra damage they can pile onto the overseer's will easily over-power their healing.. even with 2 overseer's healing each other & themselves. just remember to keep degen on them. and focus attack's on just 1 at a time. also try timing a big attack spell right when they are low on health and look to be casting healing.. make sure it's a quick shot spell.. that will probably put them over the edge and dead if you time it right. Also try beinging Orion. he rocked for taking out 2 standing still overseer's... no celebratory forestorm there! heehehehe!

Aug 08, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16	#6
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	Corpses (except for bosses) disappear after a while. Furthermore only 1 necro spell may be used per corpse. You can't cast well of blood and then summon bone minion on the same corpse.

Aug 08, 2005, 05:21 PM // 17:21	#7
Count Feanor Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hellsing Organization or... RIGHT BEHIND YOU!! Guild: The Royal Priesthood Profession: N/W	You can tell if you can use a corpse if it still has color. If it is a dark, charcoal color then it either has been used or is unusable.

Aug 08, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49	#8
EF2NYD Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005	I solo'd a monk Charr out in the breach for a good half hour when I was exploring out there. Good times.

Aug 09, 2005, 01:08 AM // 01:08	#11
Bingley Joe Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Philosophers of Denravi	Sounds like all you really needed was a good, reliable interrupt.

Aug 09, 2005, 02:53 PM // 14:53	#12
JoDiamonds Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New England	To do it alone, you really need to bring special skills for that purpose. For instance, things like Scourge Healing. Taking down enemy healers can be a difficult thing, if not very dangerous to yourself. But if you only have a monk for a companion, you'll need something for this purpose. It really depends on your class. Mesmers can bring things like Backfire or interrupts (Power Leak is excellent here). Necromancers have a few skills available to them at some points for this, such as Mark of Subversion (counter the next spell target casts on an ally, -and- steal some health). Elementalists can hoard up their energy and then drop a quick, careful series of DOT attacks which will hopefully overwhelm the enemies defenses. Warriors can't do much unless they use hammers for knockdown / interrupt. Rangers can try to Distracting Shot the healing spells. Monks ... well, they have Scourge Healing. =) Any of these methods still might fall short if you are the only attacker against multiple healers, though. But that shouldn't surprise you: One guy can't defeat two, a lot of the time.